

Trump on UFOs, Jake Barber’s Retrieval Claims & the Skywatcher Fallout
Pavel joins me to unpack Donald Trump’s UFO comments on 60 Minutes. I’ve gone back through his interviews since 2019 to see how his F-22 story has changed and what to make of those four words about a secret UFO programme: “I haven’t heard that.” We also listen to Jake Barber’s Stockholm remarks about the egg-shaped…
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