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Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth — This CPO regrets that product management exists | Tom Verrilli (CPO of Whatnot)
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This CPO regrets that product management exists | Tom Verrilli (CPO of Whatnot)

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth

Tom Verrilli is the chief product officer at Whatnot, a live shopping platform that’s become the fastest-growing U.S. marketplace business in history, with over $8 billion in GMV. Before joining Whatnot, Tom was CPO at Twitch and director of product growth at Twitter (during one of the most turbulent periods in the…

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“*Key Points to Remember After You Watch The Video. (Thank Me Later):* 1. Tom Verrilli believes product management is a skill you learn by doing, not just a job title, and sometimes teams are better off when engineers and designers make deci…”

— @TheRawDose · YouTube comment

“The issue of restricting the scope of engineers ('infantilizing' them) is solved by the PM role NOT being a technical solution role. The best PM obsession is not technical or solution-space, it is problem-space. Which means understanding th…”

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“Strong PMs are strong when they bring clarity to problem, not how to solve them. PMs live in the problem and UX, engineers live in the way to achieve that outcome. Tom is wrong on multiple occasions. Regardless, in the age of AI the jobs ar…”

— @MrSam198518 · YouTube comment

“Tom comes across as someone who would not be able to pass a junior pm interview if the interview process is somehow anonymized. Enough of these self-aggrandized big shots who are drunk on their success! Not for a moment does he come across…”

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