

The Zen of Nobody Caring | Valerie Bertinelli | Mackenzie Phillips | Tetyana Denford
Valerie's guest this week is Tetyana Denford, the writer and author behind the "nobody cares" movement that's taken over Instagram — and quickly took over Valerie's algorithm too. Valerie is joined by co-host Mackenzie Phillips for this one, and together they dig into Tetyana's philosophy, which sounds blunt at first…
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