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SCOUT· 33%2h 24m·2025-05-22·InterviewsIs RL + LLMs enough for AGI? — Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken
Dwarkesh Podcast
New episode with my good friends Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken. Sholto focuses on scaling RL and Trenton researches mechanistic interpretability, both at Anthropic. We talk through what’s changed in the last year of AI research; the new RL regime and how far it can scale; how to trace a model’s thoughts; and how…
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