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80,000 Hours Podcast — #255 – Will AI take power — or will humans use it to take power first? With Katja Grace and Tom Davidson
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#255 – Will AI take power — or will humans use it to take power first? With Katja Grace and Tom Davidson

80,000 Hours Podcast

In our first-ever debate, we asked two leading AI risk researchers which catastrophe we should fear most: misaligned AI seizing control from humans, or a small group of humans using AI to seize power. We got very different answers. But when the conversation turned to what to actually do, they agreed on a surprising…

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